I feel like you aren't very versatile. You should do a glamour look without the crazy colors or costumes.
Alright anon, let’s talk…
First of all, don’t confuse my lack of interest for lack of ability.
If I don’t look conventionally pretty, glamorous, or “real” in my drag, it’s because I have zero interest in looking that way. For me, drag is about being exaggerated, over the top, and fantastical, so why would I have neutral hair and makeup when I could have blue or pink or green instead? Especially since 99% of the time I’m read as a girl in daily life, the idea of just looking like a pretty girl in my drag has absolutely no appeal for me, because for one it’s what I’m looking to get away from, plus I just find it boring, personally speaking. Also, I’ve spent the past 8 years of my life training to be/working as a costume designer because I like costumes, so why would I trade those in for some off-the-rack prom dress? No thank you.
Second, why is it that campy/club kid/costumey/etc queens are always criticized for not being versatile enough just because they don’t do high fashion or glamour, but pageant beauty queens are never told that they should grunge up their look or try being more campy/alternative? RuPaul seems to have given a lot of young queens and fans this idea that you need to be glamorous to be polished or successful which is just flat out not true, and double standards aren’t cute.
Third, why did you even feel the need to send me this message? As stated above I don’t like the idea that every queen needs to be able to do glamour, but I do understand why it would be brought up within the realm of a competition like RuPaul’s Drag Race or TDR in which a queen is supposed to show as many sides to her drag as possible. Outside of that, since when is it required that someone has to do everything in order to be legitimate? I can be versatile when I want to be (and if my above examples aren’t sufficiently glamorous enough for you just let me know, I’m always up for a challenge!), but last time I checked, having a signature style (which is what the photoset I assume you’re reacting to was supposed to be mainly showing the evolution of) is the opposite of a problem when it comes to getting recognition in the real world.
Like many Jews with a social justice bent, I had heard the story of how it came to be that we put an orange on the Seder plate. Supposedly a woman had been speaking on the subject of women Rabbis and a man stood up from the audience to proclaim, “A woman belongs on the bimah like an orange belongs on the seder plate!”
Tonight I learned that this story is false, and the real story is far more meaningful to me (and maybe to you as well). I share it below (from http://www.myjewishlearning.com/holidays/Jewish_Holidays/Passover/The_Seder/Seder_Plate_and_Table/Orange.shtml)
In the early 1980s, while speaking at Oberlin College Hillel [the campus Jewish organization], Susannah Heschel, a well-known Jewish feminist scholar, was introduced to an early feminist Haggadah that suggested adding a crust of bread on the seder plate, as a sign of solidarity with Jewish lesbians (which was intended to convey the idea that there’s as much room for a lesbian in Judaism as there is for a crust of bread on the seder plate).
Heschel felt that to put bread on the seder plate would be to accept that Jewish lesbians and gay men violate Judaism like hametz [leavened food] violates Passover.
So at her next seder, she chose an orange as a symbol of inclusion of gays and lesbians and others who are marginalized within the Jewish community. She offered the orange as a symbol of the fruitfulness for all Jews when lesbians and gay men are contributing and active members of Jewish life.
In addition, each orange segment had a few seeds that had to be spit out—a gesture of spitting out, repudiating the homophobia of Judaism. While lecturing, Heschel often mentioned her custom as one of many feminist rituals that have been developed in the last 20 years. She writes, “Somehow, though, the typical patriarchal maneuver occurred: My idea of an orange and my intention of affirming lesbians and gay men were transformed. Now the story circulates that a man said to me that a woman belongs on the bimah [podium of a synagogue] as an orange on the seder plate. A woman’s words are attributed to a man, and the affirmation of lesbians and gay men is erased. Isn’t that precisely what’s happened over the centuries to women’s ideas?”
I think my biggest problem with this whole RPDR transphobia debate is that while everyone’s making such a big deal arguing over whether the terms used were a problem (spoiler alert: they are), it’s going completely undiscussed that the entire concept of the “female or shemale” game was just as transmisogynist as it’s title.
Condragulations to our first ever Final 4 for making it to the top of Cycle 4! You girls have werked very hard in this competition, so why not make you girls werk harder!? As previous Cycle Top 3’s have been, this challenge is to portray 3 categories to the best of your ability. CATEGORY IS….
Hey, I dunno whether you want to / can talk about this but what're your thoughts on feminism in the whole drag-queen scene, like how feminism relates or whether it even comes into play at all. My friend was telling me how he think's it's antifeminist, and I've googled it, and people seem to be comparing it to black-face and saying that drag queens are an insulting imitation of women, but it doesn't seem to add up to how i've experienced it through you. I was just wondering your thoughts (cont.)
(cont.) on this topic or whether you knew of anyone else who knew something about this. I wanted a tumblr opinion, because as far as intersectional feminism (or social justice or whatever) it’s way ahead of the rest of the internet, and I could talk about it on a deeper level. thanks so much, sorry to bother you with such a heavy question, I was just curious :3 again thanks ~~~~~~~
No no, you’re not bothering me at all! Ok so this is a topic that many people have discussed and have varying opinions on, but I guess I’ll just speak from my own experience and opinion-
Yes, drag can be and definitely sometimes is misogynist. However, drag is absolutely not all misogynist or anti-feminist by nature, and to claim that it is is basically a slap in the face to all the recipients of misogyny, especially trans women and trans-feminine people, who participate in and enjoy drag.
I feel like this quote from Ben De La Creme sums it up pretty well:
"As a feminist and an advocate of trans rights, a man in a dress CAN’T be a joke. Wearing beautiful things and telling jokes are two ways I get to make the world closer to what I want it to be. To me, drag is the perfect vehicle for comedy not because “HA-HA MEN AREN’T WOMEN,” but because of the camp tradition. In camp, a character can simultaneously be the joke and be in on it—the character and creator coexist in a way that is rare in other forms.”
Basically, there are some drag queens who the whole point of their shtick boils down to the “man in a dress” trope which can easily veer off into sexist territory (whether it be through means of comedy or through “fish” drag), but from my experience most drag queens aren’t really trying to mock or even imitate women, but rather do drag to express the feminine energy within themselves in a fun and entertaining way and to say that them doing that is harmful is just plain wrong.I hope that answers your question! Let me know if there’s anything you want me to elaborate on, and if anyone else has thoughts on the subject I’d love to hear what they have to say!